Michelle & Jim Bob Duggar (© Brendan Hoffman/Getty Images)

Duggar mom's secret to long marriage is wifely submission

26 Feb 2012 02:36:34 GMT

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If you can't seem to glean any tips for a lasting marriage from "Keeping Up With the Kardashians," there's another reality-TV star who has some wifely words of advice. Michelle Duggar, the unceasingly pregnant mom on (for now) "19 Kids and Counting," has been nabbed handing out pamphlets with nuggets of submissive wedded wisdom. Gems include never bringing up hubby's past failures (it will crush his spirit), looking at him "admiringly when he talks to others," and always "[accepting] him as a leader and [believing] in his God-given responsibilities." In other words, as @StephanieRogers indicates, "a blueprint for the ideal Stepford wife, Self-Replicating Fundamentalist Edition™," and based on the furor over Michele Bachmann's comments, the pamphlets won't win the Duggars any new viewers.

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What do you think of Michelle's advice?

1613Comments
Apr 1, 2012 7:22PM
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I've been married nearly 41 years. Neither of us is submissive. We each have different strengths and different weaknesses, and as a couple we use our strengths to our advantage. I guess that makes us equal, and we like it that way.
Mar 22, 2012 10:40AM
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This is a good example of the "subjection" of your mate,  be it male or female......this guy is Mormon,  obviously,  he popped  the cherry,  and has no regard for his wife's health in that one day he will kill her in child berth,  or end up with a deformed or mentally disabled child......keep it up good ole boy,  after all,  she is just a woman,  and your cult religion relies on total control of your household.....your sons are probably nearing marriage age,  tell me,  are their "brides"  born yet????  If they are good mormons,  they will wait till  their bride is at least 13-14,  and who does the virginity test?  the head preacher?  After all,.  ya  don't want "used" meat.   Lets say that she is not a virgin,  ya need a special waiver from the head cheese to marry?,   What about that  Smart girl who was kidnapped and raped,  producing several kids,   she get a special waiver?,    Heard that she just got married in a "temple"  in Hawaii,  boy,  she must have had a real high cheese give her a waiver........I feel sorry for this woman,  she is brain washed to the point that it will probably kill her one day in a bad pregnancy,  the woman got to learn to spit.....and with stuff like this,  "America,  do you really want a Mormon as your president" 
Mar 8, 2012 11:46PM
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Having been married for 31 years, I have a different perspective of a good marriage.  Some keys to a good marriage that works for Us...
1.  Work as a team
2.  Husband must be the bread winner and Wife be the nurturer.  Help your husband financially for the little stuff but let him lead.
3.  Never go to sleep without telling each other how much you love them.  It's so important.
4.  Always find room for improvement.  Never settle for feeling that you don't need to grow within your relationship.
5.  Children are a gift.  They are our future but having children to strenghten your marriage is not a responsible decision.  2 or 3 are plenty.  Nurture them and teach them the core values of life.  And always remember, lead by example.
6.  When you get married, remember it's a three party promise... his, hers and our heavenly Father.  Every decision you make, think about what our Father would do.  Cheating and physical abuse is unacceptable and are grounds for a divorce.  Everything else can be worked out.

I hope that our reality shows don't misguide our youths of today.  Marriage is hard work but if you both work on it  with a strong relationship with our Heavenly Father, anything is possible.

Feb 26, 2012 12:14PM
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time to stop giving this couple any more recognition

 

Feb 26, 2012 5:35AM
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People have been having this many children all over the world up until birth control was invented, some are on purpose, I think we should all reevaluate how we look at our children, not as burdens but just what they are gifts.

Feb 25, 2012 5:23PM
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I am a Christian, but I would say my misunderstandings of what submission meant and what to expect from a wife came from Media. Media has twisted what Masculinity and Femininity really mean and should really be. My wife put up with a lot and I am thankful that she was supportive as I learned what the Scriptures were really saying our relationship should be like. When your wife whole heartedly supports your decision and it fails, you can plainly see where the failure lies and you can learn from it. Her support has made me admire her. I outweigh her by 100 pounds and am many times stronger than she, she is the weaker one physically. She is many times stronger than I in many other ways. If she had not been the supportive wife she had been our marriage would have ended years ago. Her strength allowed me to mature to the man she needed. Many of my friends that married and did not apply balanced Scriptural counsel lost their marriages. I do make the final decision in our family, as I am held responsible for those decisions by the Highest Authority, the One that I am submissive to. I would be a fool not to listen to the wisest counselor in the house, my wife.     
Feb 24, 2012 10:08PM
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The thing that bothers me is that some people say that she's not hurting anyone.  It would seem that she may be though, namely her own kids.  For one thing, every time she has problems with a pregnancy and the kids are told about it, and told to pray for her, they are being put through some unnecessary stress, knowing that they could lose their mother, or that something could happen to the baby.  Also, having so many kids, it would seem that not all of them could possibly get the attention that they may need, in turn possibly causing some resentment or anger.

I know from experience, seeing a family member with the same kind of attitude that this woman has, who had so many kids that turned out angry, resentful, abusive, etc.. They looked all polished, good, kind, etc.. on the outside, for show, when people were watching, but behind backs, they were quite different.

As for the marriage advice... I've been married for almost 30 years now to the same person, and we believe in working through everything together, equally, with respect for each others feelings, needs, etc.. We've had our ups and downs, but have worked through them all, and our marriage is just as strong if not stronger than when we first started out.  We've been learning and growing together without either being the dominant one in the household.

If one person in a marriage is getting more respect and better treatment, and their needs are being met more than the other, then the other could eventually become resentful, angry, disillusioned, hurt, etc..  I've heard of that happening in relationships, from friends and family.  Obviously there are many divorces because of that.

MUTUAL RESPECT, decency, kindness, tact, halfway decent communication skills, and of course love, etc.. are the keys to a good and lasting marriage.  Having some common interests helps a bit too.

As for not telling about mistakes, if people are never told about their mistakes, how will they ever learn, grow, or change?  Some people misuse and abuse so many others, or submit others to their problems, fits, rage, whatever, because no one will tell them of their mistakes, (usually out of fear, because of how the person made them feel).  That's wrong and causes a lot of undue stress, heartache, etc..

Using some tact and diplomacy, anyone could be told what they do wrong without causing any major problems.  Of course there's just no reasoning with some people, so in cases where there's no reasoning, and/or they won't get counseling, it's probably best to just get away from them, or stay away from them, if possible, to reduce stress levels.  Too much stress is no good for anyone.

It would be good if this couple would have a little more common sense, but I do wish them well. They do need prayers for guidance, logic, well-being, etc... for their whole family.  In these days of financial concerns, overpopulation, pollution, etc...it would be wise to consider the number of children and people that are being brought into it and added to it.

Here's a quote from the Bible, "..try the spirits, whether they are of God..".  Is it really God that's guiding them to have so many babies, or something else?  Just something to consider.

And that's my 2 cents worth, if anyone lasted long enough to read this long post.
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Feb 23, 2012 8:55PM
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Looks the word is "govern" your wife....wow that's really different then submissive....or is it????
Feb 23, 2012 8:49PM
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Since I've been married 40 years I feel I can give you some of my advice.  Although, I don't follow the path you girls are on I certainly respect you for yours, however, I feel very different about what makes a good marriage.  Certainly I don't ever feel I need to be submissive since our relationship is built on being equals as humans.  Our life is shared because of our intellectual decision making that includes all area of our lives....we have raised TWO extremely happy children in a home that not only provides this as a model but a philosophy that includes kindness and insight to the suffering of our world.  Please think about this in feeling that your path is the only way to be in life because it seems that we only learn from others mistakes instead of truly looking at our own and how we can learn to be more compassionate and kind.  Submissiveness is disrespect for humankind...we are all equal!

Feb 23, 2012 8:04PM
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If you find her advice annoying........perhaps you have an annoying life yourself. I live GODS way & am very @peace w/ my life. I may not have earthly wealth but I do have peace & do my best to rack up heavenly wealth. Why is it that so many people are sooo quick to judge others? Are your lives that bad? Seek GOD! What ever happenend to people being happy for others? We are all brother & sisters

Why can't we look out for others? Why do we put others down? Why is it that so many people are so self centerd? Everyone is entilted to live life their way.GOD gave us this choice. We are not perfect....but we can all strive to be better. 

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